Tuesday, February 21, 2006

I have learned, hopefully along with all of the people involved in last discussion, that we all have strong beliefs, and arguing is simply not going to change them. My intention was not to start a debate, but to discuss what people had learned and, especially, what they had experienced with the five K's. There are several Rehit Namas, a few of which were written by people in the court of Guru Gobind Singh (Bhai Nand Laal and Bhai Daya Singh), yet they are still different. This could have been just the Rehit that they had gotten personally, or they could have been changed over time. These things (five K's, Bani, Bana, Seva and Simran) are not just there because "The Guru told us to do/wear it" they all have symbolic, spiritual and scientific reasons. Knowing this, I just wanted to discuss what people knew, not what other people knew or said. So in future posts, please understand this.
In the previous comments, I said that I did not want people to Quote the Siri Guru Granth Sahib or anyone else. The reason for this was because most of the quotes that had been posted were either not translated accurately, or the were misspelled. So, if you are going to post a quote, look over it a couple times so that you are not misquoting the Gurus. And for the translations, ideally, I would like people to translate them by themselves, word-for-word. But if you want to put one please check over it yourself. Also, just so things can be looked at neutrally, please state the page number, so that people can check for themselves. I just want to make sure the Guru is not misunderstood, and try my best to make these discussions neutral and not big, endless arguments. Also remember: there is no good or bad (or wrong or right) only thinking makes it so!
Charh di Kala!


At 6:35 AM, Blogger Sifar said...

Bhai Himmat Singh jee…

Some people are so adamant that they do not consider any other view to be correct than their own. It is either their way or the expressway. They will go to any extreme to prove others incorrect, to prove their supremacy. It makes them feel better that they are following religion best way than anyone else. But in that tussle, they forget the real essence of being a Sikh, one who should not show a lil bit of “Haumae” (ego), should be the humblest person, and on the top of everything should be a constant learner (Sikh = disciple). As itself, learning is a continuous process, and if a Sikh says he has learned everything, I don’t know what kind of Sikh he/she can be called. Such hardliners can be found in Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, or any other religion.

Anyways, it is not my job to judge anyone based on their views, as I said in my post to your 5 Ks post, that I do not want to ridicule anyone as they are the Sikhs of the same Guru who’s Sikh I am. May SatGuru be kind on all of us to show us the right path to be a True GurSikh.

Chardi Kala….

At 9:31 PM, Blogger Angad Singh said...

Himmat Singh ji..

why dont u share with us about your time in india and how do you think it prepared you to face the world out here in america?

did they at miri piri teach you/tell you about the kinds of problems you will face and how you should/can handle them..

Also you mention that you are studying so do you go in bana and dumalla to college or normal clothes like most of us do wearing a regular turban..

if you do wear bana and dumalla what have your experiences been like?

thanks so much

guru ang sang!

At 2:47 PM, Blogger Himmat Singh Khalsa said...

Yes I will post about Miri Piri at some point, so much happens there it would be hard to come up with a story to tell that would have an end...

At 12:19 PM, Blogger Pritam Singh Khalsa said...

Waheguru Ji ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji ki fateh!

I dont think anyone is arguing.If you argue with a fool therfore you are also a fool.You can tell your side then listen to the other I do think when someone thinks they are right and are proved wrong it is a good thing{it happened to me all the time, dealing and listening to humans is the only way to shape your future
,And sometimes it takes a couple of days to figure it out{highest contemplation of the self} If I'm off in the slightest way please add to this online conversation. Waheguru Ji ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji ki fateh!

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waiting for your next post

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